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#161 Fat Spanish Waiter

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 01:30 AM

View PostPhantom Lord, on Apr 19 2012, 07:29 PM, said:

But come on if Brock didn't beat Cena or anyone in the WWE for that matter in less then 10 seconds in a "MMA" match, his credibility and that of his title reign as UFC Champion would be tarnished for ever.

But it wouldn't actually be a shoot would it? So why would that matter?
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 01:43 AM

The only credible pro wrestler -> MMA conversion is Jeff Jarrett.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 01:57 AM

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Shit, as a regular part of his offense he has the argentinian backbreaker drop(trainwreck or whatever) and the torture rack neckbreaker. Let him do this stuff too. I'm telling you. He's stuck between Mark Henry and Skip Sheffield right now. He needs to do some stuff that only he is doing. Right now it's pretty much just the senton and baldo bomb.

The rack neckbreaker is way too similar to the F5. The Trainwreck would work though. If they actually let him use the Bernard Driver people would shit, but since Owen gave Austin a stinger with it I doubt they would.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 02:42 AM

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Certainly. WWE tried it before with the Lion's Den matches.
The only one on PPV was Summerslam 98, which was a success. It is a pretty bad idea but the Lions Den stuff was successful in the midcard.

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But it wouldn't actually be a shoot would it? So why would that matter?
A better question is why WWE gives a fuck about the UFC title being credible. Hell they need to have Brock cut a promo saying the WWE title is the only belt that means anything.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 02:48 AM

View PostCurt McGirt, on Apr 19 2012, 09:57 PM, said:

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Shit, as a regular part of his offense he has the argentinian backbreaker drop(trainwreck or whatever) and the torture rack neckbreaker. Let him do this stuff too. I'm telling you. He's stuck between Mark Henry and Skip Sheffield right now. He needs to do some stuff that only he is doing. Right now it's pretty much just the senton and baldo bomb.

The rack neckbreaker is way too similar to the F5. The Trainwreck would work though. If they actually let him use the Bernard Driver people would shit, but since Owen gave Austin a stinger with it I doubt they would.

No one's doing the Greetings from Ashbury park/Rikishi Driver and I swear I've seen him do that variation too.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 02:48 AM

Double post. Mea culpa.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 02:54 AM

View PostThe Victator, on Apr 19 2012, 09:42 PM, said:

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But it wouldn't actually be a shoot would it? So why would that matter?
A better question is why WWE gives a fuck about the UFC title being credible. Hell they need to have Brock cut a promo saying the WWE title is the only belt that means anything.

If it's the only belt that means anything, then why did he leave?  

Lesnar should be a mercenary hired by Laurinitis who just wants to get paid and hurt people, then drink some beer afterwards and maybe have sex with his wife.  Fancy jewelry and trinkets shouldn't mean shit to a guy like that.

Maybe Bruiser Brody can be a template for some of the stuff they do with Lesnar.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 03:01 AM

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If it's the only belt that means anything, then why did he leave?
You realize he doesn't have to mean it right? The good thing about Brock is you put enough bills in him and he'll say whatever you want.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 03:16 AM

View PostThe Victator, on Apr 19 2012, 10:01 PM, said:

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If it's the only belt that means anything, then why did he leave?
You realize he doesn't have to mean it right? The good thing about Brock is you put enough bills in him and he'll say whatever you want.

I'm pointing out that it's illogical for him to make that sort of claim and come across as sincere, so you must want him to appear as an insincere phony.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 03:23 AM

Aha!

A Heel!

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 03:32 AM

View PostMatt D, on Apr 20 2012, 03:23 AM, said:

Aha!

A Heel!

Pretty much.

Also there is the whole final month of losing his title, getting his ass kicked at Wrestlemania and booed out of MSG. That would be more than enough motivation to explain leaving. It works from every direction.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 03:34 AM

Cena vs Brock MMA style could only hurt Brock if they tried to book it realistically. Cena lands a hard punch and Brock starts stumbling and running away.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 03:49 AM

View Postjackwebb, on Apr 19 2012, 10:34 PM, said:

Cena vs Brock MMA style could only hurt Brock if they tried to book it realistically. Cena lands a hard punch and Brock starts stumbling and running away.

And of course, Cena gets busted for a wellness violation shortly after.
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