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[Shylock]

I'll throw out a recommendation for Shadow Man (I had it on the N64).  Great game with a creepy, awesome soundtrack.

[Andrew POE!]

J.H., on Feb 16 2011, 11:21 PM, said:

Kagero/Deception - Any game where you get to play the bad guy killing the good guys is great by me

Clock Tower 2 - I love the Clock Tower series but this one will make my lists just for the Japanese TV commercials alone

Burning Rangers - C'mon people it was one of those last hurrah titles for the Saturn~!

Power Stone - My secret wish was that Bandai would use this game engine to make a proper Dragonball arcade fighter... alas...

Lunar The Silver Star Story Complete - I will love this game until the day I die

Xenogears - There is nothing about this game I do not love.

All Japan Pro-Wrestling Kings Soul - I second the nomination for this. It doesn't have the arcade crazy feel of Giant Gram but that's ok

Parappa The Rapper - Did I miss something? Did No one even mention this or am I crazy?

Sword of The Berserk: Gutts Rage - Good hack and slash action that was way too much fun, even if Zodd was a bitch to beat!

James

I love your love for Power Stone, but that is a Dreamcast game and can't be included in pimping. :(

But I second Burning Rangers

[Andrew POE!]

I got some more to include in pimping for 32-Bit/64-Bit Era:

Tempest 2000 (Atari Jaguar) - I tried this out one time on a real Jaguar system and later on an emulator. AWESOME game -- very much a throwback to old Atari games. A version came out on PS1 called Tempest X3 but is not as good as this.

Rapid Reload/Gunner's Heaven (PS1) - Japan/Europe only release, but you only need to know this: Gunstar Heroes on Playstation console. Early gen game, but very awesome.

The Divide: Enemies Within (PS1) - 3D Metroid-style adventure with a robot protagonist.

Dino Crisis (PS1) - Resident Evil with dinosaurs.

Tobal No. 2 (PS1) - Tobal No. 1 is god-awful Square game, but this game which came out later is very good.

Time Crisis (PS1) - Light-rail shooter and very early game with a cover system.

Pandemonium! (PS1) - Count me as one of the few people to actually like this game. I found it to be very addictive -- I spent about 8 hours one afternoon just to finish it.

PO'ed (3DO/PS1) - FPS where you can hit people with frying pans. Serious Sam before Serious Sam.

[J.H.]

Andrew POE!, on Feb 20 2011, 10:47 AM, said:

I love your love for Power Stone, but that is a Dreamcast game and can't be included in pimping. :(
But I second Burning Rangers

Yeah I realized my goof with Sword of The Berserk also. Lord I seem to forget that Saturn and Dreamcast are 2 separate systems!

James

[throughsilver]

J.H., on Feb 20 2011, 04:41 PM, said:

Lord I seem to forget that Saturn and Dreamcast are 2 separate systems!

Just a tad separate! ;)

[Chaos]

If I can make time, I may go back and play some of these, but I think I'll at least vote int he poll and pick stuff to the best of my recollection, realizing that some of the games will be omitted that I've never played.

Anyways, my predictions for a top 5 in no particular order:

1.  Final Fantasy VII
2.  Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
3.  Super Mario 64
4.  WWF No Mercy
5.  Final Fantasy Tactics/Zelda Majora's Mask/Goldeneye

[Red is Dead]

OK - so here goes my nostalgia trip.

Super mario 64.
resident evil 2.
Metal Gear solid - always watched it being played when i was at university - never played it until 2005...the fiancée had an old psone and i bought a memory card just for this game...
goldeneye n64.
wave race 64.
tekken.
virtua fighter.

[Tabe]

I really wanted to like Metal Gear Solid.  I heard all this great stuff about it so I picked it up.  And there's a mission early on where you have to dodge between spotlights to avoid detection.  Anyway, after getting nailed a bunch of times by the spotlights despite not actually being in their view, I found myself up against a wall.  My guy had his back to the wall.  Either intentionally or by accident, I forget which, I hit the button to throw a grenade.  My walked away from the wall, turned, and threw the grenade against the wall.  It landed at my feet, blew up, and killed me.  

That pissed me off so much, I turned off the game and never went back.

Tabe

[The Natural]

Tabe, on Feb 21 2011, 05:35 PM, said:

I really wanted to like Metal Gear Solid.  I heard all this great stuff about it so I picked it up.  And there's a mission early on where you have to dodge between spotlights to avoid detection.  Anyway, after getting nailed a bunch of times by the spotlights despite not actually being in their view, I found myself up against a wall.  My guy had his back to the wall.  Either intentionally or by accident, I forget which, I hit the button to throw a grenade.  My walked away from the wall, turned, and threw the grenade against the wall.  It landed at my feet, blew up, and killed me.  

That pissed me off so much, I turned off the game and never went back.

Tabe

I was okay on that section, the first problem I had was getting past the security cameras shortly after the section you describe. I certainly never had the wall problem.

My ballot size is sitting at 15 right now. I have the games I want on it, it's just sorting out the order. There's games on it which were critically received better than others but the fun factor I had while playing a game is the most important criteria for high placings.

To add to my earlier prediction I think a N64 game will wind up getting the top spot. The only PlayStation games which have a shot at getting the top spot are Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy VII (I see this as the highest ranked PlayStation game). I'd be shocked if No Mercy isn't the top wrestling game.

[Kyle Casey]

So, which of the THQ/Aki wrestling games for the N64 do you all prefer? To me, it seems that, while they were all good, they got progressively better. In my mind, I think it's a 3-way tie between Wrestlemania 2000, No Mercy, and VPW 2, with VPW 2 getting a slight edge because that's what my friends and I played most of the time.

[Dirty Janchez]

Kyle Casey, on Mar 1 2011, 04:07 PM, said:

So, which of the THQ/Aki wrestling games for the N64 do you all prefer? To me, it seems that, while they were all good, they got progressively better. In my mind, I think it's a 3-way tie between Wrestlemania 2000, No Mercy, and VPW 2, with VPW 2 getting a slight edge because that's what my friends and I played most of the time.

1. No Mercy (played it to death with my friends, only a few gripes: lag, weird roster, no blood in my version, lack of masks in caw, no editing of movesets of non-caws). I think we tried every possible match mode that could created (First Blood/KO only battle royal, anyone?).
2. WCW/nWo Revenge (awesome roster).
3. WM2000 (game could be criminally hard in carreer mode, did like the full entrances).

I have never played VPW2 unfortunately. Would love to try the shoot fight stuff. Also a shame I never got myself a Gameshark to hack these games with barbwired deathmatches and shit.

[Death From Above]

I think the only reason Wrestlemania 2000 isn't going to finish near the top is that No Mercy is almost the same game, just slightly better. Both are legit great titles though. Wrestling games seemed to take over from 2-D fighters there for one brief moment in time.

VPW2 I never did play.

I am trying to get through new material as much as I can for this. The problem is I keep getting distracted by other games I already know I like, but I am trying out lots of new stuff too when I can.

[Andrew POE!]

Kyle Casey, on Mar 1 2011, 10:07 AM, said:

So, which of the THQ/Aki wrestling games for the N64 do you all prefer? To me, it seems that, while they were all good, they got progressively better. In my mind, I think it's a 3-way tie between Wrestlemania 2000, No Mercy, and VPW 2, with VPW 2 getting a slight edge because that's what my friends and I played most of the time.

Through the magic of emulation (and playing on a friend's modded N64 in college), I prefer VPW 2. No Mercy has better features but there's nothing like having Kawada vs. Misawa matches at least until King of Colosseum 2.

And the PS1/N64 era is both underrated and awful at the same time. It started the whole kick of 'games must be like cinema' that modern gaming is doing now and ridiculous 'push boxes to solve puzzles' (I'm looking at you Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, and Metal Gear Solid).

[Tabe]

Andrew POE!, on Mar 1 2011, 10:39 AM, said:

And the PS1/N64 era is both underrated and awful at the same time. It started the whole kick of 'games must be like cinema' that modern gaming is doing now and ridiculous 'push boxes to solve puzzles' (I'm looking at you Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, and Metal Gear Solid).

I would agree.  I think in a lot of cases, the developers overshot the available technology.  But they also brought the gaming world forward in a big way.

Tabe

[Death From Above]

It's a funny era because it's the first to leap into 3D being the basic way things are. In some ways I compare it to that Atari/Colecovision era of the really early console games because of that. Sort of a starting point that other things grew from.

There is indeed some great stuff in here (I would say *a lot* more in this era than that one, personally), but there's also a lot of stumbling about in the dark not quite knowing how to handle the new medium yet.

I still think there are some really top games here. But as I go through games I'd also put it solidly behind the 8 and 16 bit eras right now for overall quality.

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Through the magic of emulation (and playing on a friend's modded N64 in college), I prefer VPW 2. No Mercy has better features but there's nothing like having Kawada vs. Misawa matches at least until King of Colosseum 2.

I don't doubt it was great fun, but really I think part of the reason I never got around to the game back in the day was that these were always the first people I would build in WM 2000 or No Mercy anyway. Misawa, Kawada, Kobashi, Jumbo, Hansen. Hashimoto was a pretty badass build too. Great Muta was an obvious one too. And it was a lot of fun building them from the ground up and having them come out right.

I suppose you could always do it the reverse way assuming the Japanese one had fighter creation too and put Steve Austin and the Undertaker in New Japan. But eh, never got around to it.

[Dirty Janchez]

Bitches don't know about my nWo invasion in the WWE done right. Sting, Goldberg and DDP being the faces from WCW to help the WWF. All of it ending in a 40 man (and a few ladies) hardcore royal rumble (spilled through the whole arena). Nash won it. My buddies and I called it backstage shenanigans. Saturn was so close to saving the WWF.

Also in my opinion the best site for classic caws is STILL online.

http://www.angelfire...ng2/nomercycaw/

[Ditch]

Ten more worth mentioning:
Shining Force 3
Shining The Holy Ark
X-Men: Children of the Atom
Marvel Super Heroes
X-Men vs Street Fighter
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Dragon Warrior 7
Breath of Fire 3
Darkstalkers 2 (Night Warriors)
Mega Man X4

[Kyle Casey]

Back with some more games to plug:

Vandal Hearts was a fun little Strategy-RPG. It wasn't terribly difficult, but the story was pretty good. I dug it quite a bit.

Super Puzzle Fighter 2 Turbo was a ton of fun. The first video store I worked for had this, and I brought it home a lot. Good times.

Extreme G for N64 was a great racing game (and series) that, I think, never really got the credit I thought it merited. Really fun tracks, most of which were balls-out fast and hard as hell. One of the few things Acclaim (Ack! Lame!) did right.

Grandia for the Saturn and PlayStation was a great RPG. In some respects, especially in retrospect, it was actually better than Final Fantasy 7. It was longer, had as good if not better a cast, and I never got the sense that it dragged on as I played it.

As an RPG mark, I would also be remiss if I didn't mention Legend of Mana, Tales of Destiny, Tales of Destiny 2, Legend of Dragoon, Chrono Cross, and Valkyrie Profile. Wonderful games all.

Did I mention Suikoden and Suikoden 2? I did? Well, I'm mentioning it again. Both games are fantastic, and since Suikoden 1 is on PSN, you owe it to yourself to at least play that one if you haven't done so already. Suikoden 2 can be a bit pricey, I know, but it's really one of my favorite games ever.

[Death From Above]

Only Puzzle Fighter I've ever played was something called 2-X or something like that which was a Japanese title I played on Dreamcast. Amazing crack cocaine level of puzzle game that, I might have to track down the earlier stuff.

[Shane]

This is the gaming era that I skipped out on, going from the Genesis straight to the Dreamcast, so I'm interested in seeing how this one turns out because I'm pretty clueless on this timeframe. Wasn't even really following the magazines at this point. I had the Bleemcast version of MGS and played through the PS1 FF games once I got a PS2, but those might legitimately be the only PS1 games I've ever played. Not sure I ever played a Saturn game, except for maybe a store demo display. With Nintendo quick to release older stuff on new consoles, I have played a decent-ish amount of N64 games, but certainly not enough to put together a ballot.