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[J.H.]

WOW~!

Rob Bricken over at Topless Robot seems to gone off his rocker with the news that Miyazaki is considering a sequel to Porco Rosso. The headline is pure  Hyperbole

Ripping into Miyazaki for for verythisince Spirited Away is a bit much when you consider his last 2 movies were at least very good. So Miyazaki wants to make a sequel to his most personal film. I mean shit that isn't exactly the definition of selling out y'know!

James

[TheVileOne]

Porco Rosso is my favorite Miyazaki movie and I think Miyazaki can do whatever he wants.  That being said, I'm not sure what he can do with a sequel.  Marco's story pretty much finished in the first movie and it

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all but said he basically became a human again and moved in with Gina.

[FLIK]

That whole article was pure idiocy but I do sorta agree that nothing since Spirited Away has been as good as Spirited Away.

Howl was pretty good but hardly a classic, Ponyo didn't do much for me, and while not a Miyazaki Sr project, Gedo Senki was the worst movie Ghibli's ever put out hands down so the company as a whole hasn't  been on a hot streak of late  with me personally.

[Rev Ray]

J.H., on Aug 23 2010, 11:31 AM, said:

WOW~!

Rob Bricken over at Topless Robot seems to gone off his rocker with the news that Miyazaki is considering a sequel to Porco Rosso. The headline is pure  Hyperbole

Ripping into Miyazaki for for verythisince Spirited Away is a bit much when you consider his last 2 movies were at least very good. So Miyazaki wants to make a sequel to his most personal film. I mean shit that isn't exactly the definition of selling out y'know!

James

I love Porco Rosso, but wasn't it more or less something that he made for JAL and then decided to flesh it out for a full movie?

[TheVileOne]

I think that's true.  However that being said it's my personal favorite work that Miyazaki has done and I've always found it to be criminally overlooked.  

I was giddy though when I saw one or two people cosplaying as Marco at AX this year.

[Rev]

I stopped paying attention to Topless Robot when they had a bitchfit over And Another Thing... despite not actually reading it.

[J.T.]

Happy Birthday, Miyazaki-san!

[Cliff Hanger]

Topless Robot has a history of screaming about how much better Robotech is than the original Macross and how terrible Macross Frontier is.  Their opinions on anime are, therefore, easily disregarded.

[J.H.]

The first sign that Topless Robot don't know shit about anime is that Rob Bricken used to write forAnime Insider!

James

[ダニエル]

FLIK, on Aug 25 2010, 01:40 AM, said:

nothing since Spirited Away has been as good as Spirited Away

You could argue that nothing before Spirited Away was as good as Spirited Away. If there's an animated film from Japan (or anywhere else) that is as good or better, I'm eagerly all ears (and eyes)!

Actually, to be fair, there are a few candidates that are more or less as good, but I can't think of anything I'd put above Spirited Away.

[TheVileOne]

I still like Porco Rosso more than Spirited Away.  And Ponyo for that matter.

[ダニエル]

Ponyo was pretty ordinary. At least for me, it took the borderline-nauseating naivety side of Miyazaki a little step or two too far. We all know he's a Romantic, but normally it comes across with genuine verve and not seemingly forced childishness. It's an interesting story that looks pretty good, but it's not on the same quality level as any of his previous work.

I certainly agree that Proco is 'criminally overlooked' - but much of that would be because Miyazaki's body of work is just so spectacularly good that films are prone to being lost in the shuffle. I'm yet to see a 'kids film' better than Totoro; which I feel is equally overlooked. Hauru and Ponyo are big steps down in quality from the rest of his stuff... which speaks a lot about Miyazaki when those two are hardly that bad to begin with.

[FLIK]

Loved Spirited but just ranking Miyazaki's stuff alone I wouldn't put it ahead of Nausicaa, Laputa, Mononoke, Totoro or Porco. If it counts, wouldn't rank it ahead of Castle of Cagliostro either.

Actually, having re-watched it not that long ago, i've decided Nausicaa was his best work i've seen and i'd put that at #1 period.

[J.H.]

I rate Laputa as the second greatest adventure film ever mader behind Raiders of the Lost Ark, but I really think Mononoke and Totoro are his Masterpiece of Masterpieces...

James

[ダニエル]

My Miyazaki feature-film ranking would go something like this:

1. Spirited Away
2. Totoro
3. Nausicaa
4. Rosso
5. Mononoke
6. Laputa
7. Kiki
8. Cagliostro
9. Howl's
10. Ponyo

Mononokehime lost a lot of ground with me on subsequent viewings, whereas Spirited doesn't become any less of a great allegorical culture drama no matter how many times I watch it. And Nausicaa on 2nd viewing struck me as being borderline-masterpiece and essentially a better version of the environmental impetus of Mononoke. I think the point we're all making - is that Miyazaki has produced at least 5 great films. Also worth mentioning is Hisaishi. I'm not an adventure film fan, so that aspect of Laputa was mostly lost on me - but the score was thoroughly enjoyable. It's also hard to imagine Totoro being as magical without the score... and Nausicaa wouldn't be so marvellously other-worldly without that weird synth ostinato. Good on ya Joe!