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[(Mul)Doomstone]

[PolishBobStupak]

Hogan vs. Schultz: * 1/4 What an inexplicable nomination.  Prolonged, decent heel beatdown section from Scultz starts, but the rest of the match is a prolonged clumsy Hogan squash: inexplicably heel offensive comeback from Hogan, extremely shitty Hogan axebombers, obvious Hogan blade job.

[Nate The Great]

Can someone fill me in on David Shultz, he's not the same guy that helped Angle and was murdered was he?

[Josh Mann]

Nate The Great, on Sep 16 2005, 11:58 AM, said:

Can someone fill me in on David Shultz, he's not the same guy that helped Angle and was murdered was he?

There are three men of note in sports who are named Dave Shultz, which is where the confusion takes place:

1) Hockey Player. Legendary enforcer of the Philadelphia Flyers' Broad St. Bullies.

2) Amateur Wrestler. 1984 Freestyle Gold medalist. Subsequently became an assistant wrestling coach at Oklahoma, Stanford and Wisconsin. Shot and killed by the sponsor of his wrestling club, John DuPont in 1996 while in training for another Olympic bid. DuPont was found not guilty by reason of insanity.

As far as Kurt Angle is concerned, Angle gave the following response to FoxSports in reference to David Shultz #2:

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FOXSports.com: I know that David Schultz was a mentor and idol to you. What did his death mean to you personally and to the ’96 team overall? Was it more of an inspiration or an obstacle to overcome?

Kurt Angle: It was both really. Dave was really important to my training because he was my coach. And although he was trying out for the Olympic Games, and I honestly believe he would have made the team and would have won a medal, he was my coach. He was my mentor, the guy that I looked up to and the guy I needed to go that extra yard for . When David died, part of me died because I didn’t really know where I was going to go to seek help. For about two weeks I didn’t do much of anything. But then I thought that David would want me to pursue my dream and achieve my goals. So, I went to Greg Strobel of USA Wrestling and also Dan Gable from the University of Iowa, and I started training with those guys as much as I could. I kind of used Dave for inspiration because he always told me that you never want to go into something unprepared. You always want to be prepared as possible so that you have no regrets.

3) Professional Wrester. Wrestled mainly in Canada, Minneapolis and New York. Best known for incident involving 20/20 reporter John Stossel.

[Nate The Great]

Thanks that always confused me.

[sydneybrown]

I'm guessing it was nominated more for being memorable than for being a good match.   This was the first bloodbath I ever saw as a little wrestling fan, so in that regards I have perhaps stronger feelings for it.  

I'm not ranking this particularly high either, but Schultz I think does an excellent job in a "screw the title, I want you dead" role.  What could have been if he hadn't smacked Stossel around.

[Ryan Katastrophe]

Well this one is likely to rank very low on my list.  It seems to be the very meaning of insignificant in my opinion.  Pretty weak offense from Shultz and some fumbling around by Hogan.  At one point Hogan even takes a bump to that mat after being bitten in the forehead.  Huh?

[Marcos]

You know it's funny because for some reason I have this great memory of this match as well just from watching the Best of Hulk Hogan 80's Coliseum Video late at night. In fact, from that whole tape, this is the only match I remember with that bizzarre elbow bump replay sticking in my head. But really, while this is a better Hogan match it doesn't warrant any kind of nomination for best of the 80's. The blood was good, Hogan putting the blade in his trunks was a little obvious though, Shultz making a comeback after being held up from the pin was good too, but the thing is, once that legdrop happens the match is ruined. I would certainly go 2 stars but not much higher.

Kind of strange how Dave Shultz was this good friend of Hogan's and yet after the John Stossel thing he dropped from site. Surely he could have had a run in the AWA or NWA given that he was so famous from that incident. I understand he became a bounty hunter post wrestling.

[Manos99]

Schultz absolutely toasts himself on the elbow, but the rest of this match is about as prototypical a Hogan match as there ever has been. Schultz's offense was especially pedestrian considering my expectations, and despite the blood, I wasn't really feeling the intensity from anyone except the crowd.

[Loss]

I agree that the crowd were the best workers in this match. Perhaps the full version of this is better than what's shown. I had trouble following this one.

[c-mac]

Without the blood, this match is pretty hollow and even with it, it wasn't really all that brutal. The chairshot which supposedly busted Hogan open didn't look particularily devestating and the brawling wasn't exactly top notch either. Also, Hogan opting not to cover Schults when given the chance kind of made Dr. D look like crap and only further reinforced that the Hulkster was never in any real danger. The "Minneapolis Masacre" was mediocre at best.

[texanspaniard]

I really did not care for this one much at all. I was a big Hogan fan as a child and still am to some extent but this was kind of a nothing match. There was blood and Shulz getting an offensive comeback after the leg drop as well as his elbow drop stood out but even with all that I was kind of bored with it. No se'.

[jcl1]

While this match doesn't seem to be catching any love at all i thought it was entertaining not great but still a fun 80's style brawl that played out as a routine Hogan squash. Schultz reminds me of Issac Yankem for some reason....

[Handsome Dan]

Of all the Hogan squashes that are no doubt scattered throughout the 8 discs, this is the one I'll probably be the kindest to, if for no other reason than it happens to be the second match on the first disc (Hogan squashes are still kind of novel to me at this point in my marathon viewing adventure, you see).  This wasn't offensively wretched or anything, just fairly unremarkable.  It was fun to see a crowd that pumped up; I wonder if Bob Mould was in the audience?


Dan

[Shoe]

It was pretty bland. I think the babyface kills the heel when the babyface saves him from his own pinfall. Crowd was into it, so at least it had that aspect to it.

[ChrisHenderson]

15/100.  I want to like this match with the blood and Schultz using the bandana as a weapon in the beginning...but I just can't.  Schultz is so bland and dull, that it really just bores me to tears.  The botched elbow was nice, but after the legdrop any "drama" in the match just evaporated.  I doubt this one will make it above #85 on my list.

[VRR]

My number 100. I have no idea how it made the list.  Its not a bad match, but the clipping kills it.

[Iron Chad]

Victator, on Oct 26 2005, 07:20 PM, said:

My number 100. I have no idea how it made the list.  Its not a bad match, but the clipping kills it.

Agreed.  Dr. D looks, and other than the top rope elbows, wrestles like Sid.  His chair-shot on Hogan was embarrassing, even for mid 1980's WWF standards.  Compare that to how much more devestating Sheik makes a *padded* chair shot look in the Boot Camp match.

I'm thinking the clipping took out Dr. D's offensive parts which could've made it better than what was there, but this is almost as bad as the 10,000 person Survivor Series matches or a few of the other head-scratching choices.

-Chad

[Mike Parkhurst]

I'm shocked nobody mentioned Hogan's ridiculous posting of Dr D. I don't know how that could not have generated a concussion.