Meltzer says Brock went to Canada last week to rest, collapsed, and was rushed to the hospital. He doesn't have AIDS or cancer, but some very serious medical issue that could prevent him from ever fighting again. I would guess hepatitis.

Rodrigo Nogueira is also hospitalized with a bad staph infection and is currently about to undergo IV treatment.

And he said that Shane-O-Mac met with UFC officials recently with Dana giving a no comment when asked.

What the fuck? I'll assume if it is hep it came from the mono? That's terrible, and sad. Brock has been one of my favorite sports personalities since 2002. Huge blow to the UFC, naturally. Bigger blow to his kid and family. I'm dreading pictures coming out of Brock 100 pounds lighter or something.

Knowing the mentality of many athletes, if his career is ended, he's going to lose his mind.

Quotes from Dana White, courtesy of tsn.ca

Wow..... good luck Brock. I wonder what the F is wrong with him. I would think that if it is Hep, like Sprewell said, all the pills and juice from the WWE days probably left his liver an easy target. We'll know how serious it is if/when they take the strap from him.

As for the meeting w/Shane, could have been offering his services. He has contacts in markets and venues all over the world. Or he could be asking how much they want for WEC.

Honestly, I'm not all that convinced he was really on steroids in WWE. He's the same size now as he was then, just a little less cut. He's just a naturally big dude. He still has had to cut a lot of weight for fights for sure not on anything. In the same respect, Lashley is just as big as he was, too. He was way massive when he debuted, and after Eddie he's been the same size now that he has to take tests. I think it is pretty impressive for both of them to be just as big as they were when they could have been having extra help.

LO F'N L...did I just read this on the Death Valley Driver message board?

Well that's shitty news to wake up to.

cue "if it's not anabolic steroids, it's not steroids"

considering all the fun ways you can get hepatitis from drugs.. a lot of stuff is possible

Could be lyme disease. Dude hunts a lot.

Honestly, I'm not all that convinced that he's not still on steroids or HGH in UFC. Same goes for Bobby Lashley.

This is what I thought of because lyme disease can manifest itself in a number of ways, one being extreme fatigue, fever, flu like symptoms. I know anyone can get mono, hell, the guy in the cubicle next to me was out for almost a month with mono, but it didn't seem to add up. Anyway, yeah, his hunting activities, where he lives, etc. builds a case for lyme disease. Dana being asked to not say what it is though leads me to believe hep is what else it could be. Pretty scary though...

And Christ, really scary for Nog as well. His second bout with staph in a year? That's nuts. I wish them both the best.

I'm not going to comment on Lashley, but Lesnar's ultra high profile would mean that he's under a huge microscope. The idea that he's getting away with using steroids or HGH, when dudes who take a steroid to recover from injuries get popped for it, is laughable.

The idea that elite athletes can't get away with using AAS and peptide hormones year round is what is ridiculous. Many major sports are juiced to the gills and pass tests with regularity. Using a correct substance should not be a big issue for a reasonably intelligent strength and conditioning coach.

MMA is full of anabolic drugs.

Not saying that has anything to do with Lesnar's illness, just saying.

Brock was a farmboy and he's built like a farmboy. Big fucking neck and shoulders, with powerful legs to support the lift. And he was every bit as big in college.

I read about his training regimen in an (awesome) issue of WWE Magazine to hype his Summerslam match with the Rock. Dude runs 1K with a 180lb. log strapped to his back, amongst other things. It read like the most intense and outright crazy training regiment I'd heard of, super intensive both in terms of weight and endurance. Rock's was mostly cardio with some solid lifting, and not even really comparable in intensity.

Brock's just a beast. He always has been, and I don't think he ever needed steroids to get there. People need to realize you *can* get that big without 'roids...you just have to be a maniac in training with some healthy genetics on your side.


In any case, I hope that whatever the timeframe, Brock makes a recovery. I dig watching him fight, but if he has to retire for his safety, I hope that's exactly what he does. That said, I'm hoping that sometime he'll make his way back into the Octagon, be it in months, a year, or more.

Take exactly what I just said about Brock and apply it to Nog too. Shitty week.

Footage of which aired on WWE TV in the lead up to said SummerSlam 2002 match. I don't know if you ever saw it or not.?

Shit to read about both fighters health. Lesnar's is obviously really serious, more than we thought previously with complications and for Nog to get another staph infection so soon after looking great against Couture and not a shadow of himself against Mir is really crappy.

His camp is now saying it isn't that serious and Dana is blowing it out of proportion.

Well to respond to that, this was the case when Mir's injury earlier this year was reported. I think the report was that he had a severe back injury that needed surgery and UFC would have to cancel the title unification match. Then Mir said it was just some minor elbow injury so the fight would have to be delayed only a couple months.

Well everytime I've heard Brock answer the steroid question he says, "I never failed a steroid test." To me that says, "Yeah, but I aint sayin shit till I get caught."

One of the reasons I generally dismiss the roid talk is simply because the guy has to cut for every fight.

He looks very different physique wise from his WWE days. Steroid use in MMA is different from use in pro wrestling because of the testing and because they're doing it for recovery, not to get nice abs for Vince McMahon's muscle man fetish. ;)

Who knows what he could have? It could be any number of things. It sounds like they haven't really nailed down exactly what's wrong with him either. Hopefully it turns out to be something simple that can be treated and he can get back to being a healthy athlete.

I don't doubt that his camp will downplay it as much as possible because that's what fight camps do. On the other hand, Dana probably made it sound worse than it actually is because he's doing damage control for his biggest draw being out indefinitely.

How does Dana saying Lesnar may never fight again constitute as "damage control?" Wouldn't damage control be Dana saying Lesnar's condition isn't as bad as it's being reported?

Sable burned him.

He has people who bought tickets already to one show to see Lesnar and perhaps to a second show to see Lesnar although I don't think the second date for Lesnar/Carwin was ever announced by UFC. If people think he's got the flu, they'd be quite pissed. If they know that he's so sick that he may never fight again, they'll be more understanding.

Only burn Sable gave him is the one when he takes a leak.

On the Lesnar Steroid thing: He was arrested in OVW for recieving a suspected Steroid package, but released and exonerated when it turned out that the package only contained legal, over the counter supplements. That's how come he has a mugshot on the smoking gun website.

Also, Vince McMahon gets wood for arms, not abs.

This is really unfortunate no matter what the cause, Lesnar is a very disciplined person in his training & work ethic.
I may go to show the effects the immune system has on the body.

From Meltzer on WOL

-Brock has at least 3 or 4 things wrong with him, 2 of which are known. They're trying to figure else what else it is.
-He trained while he had Mono (when you're supposed to rest), which was likely the cause of all these other problems.
-the whole thing appears to have stemmed from the initial Mono.
-Brock is, understandably, depressed.
-There's likely going to be interim championship.



So, really, it's complications from mono. Which means a lot of things (like hepatitus) can be ruled out.

So...did he not want Dana to say anything about him training after having mono because it would make him look bad? That's the only part that doesn't make sense, unless Dana was blowing things out of proportion.

Brock's kinda overly macho like that.

TRAINING?? He had mono and decided that a hunting trip to Canada would be rest. What else is a Minnesota farm boy doing in Canada? He prolly wasn't hitting the strip clubs. Sitting up in a stand in the cold, or stumbling through the woods and eventually collapsed. Some people too tough for their own good.

And legs. See: Jericho and Miz.

Dana told TMZ that it's intestinal and Brock's gonna require surgery. I'm guessing Crohn's.

Wouldn't he have been afflicted with Crohn's at a much younger age? The couple people I knew who had that showed symptoms of it at a young age. That said, those people were ALWAYS sick or affected by it in some way shape or form, so even if you can live into your 30s without it being a problem, when it is a problem, it's a big problem. This whole situation is really puzzling and it feels intentionally puzzling, like it's a publicity or attention grab. There was no other reason to come out and say that Brock was in this bad of shape and then say that you're not going to say what the reason is. People already knew he was sick with mono, maybe something else, so just leave it at mono and go into all of this somewhere later down the line.

Trained with mono?? That's fucking nuts. I know people who have been in bed for literally 3 months due to it. I can't imagine training for a MMA fight with it. Goddamn.

This sounds like the best episode of House all season, when does it air?

Well apparently he wanted to be a fucking fighter.

House has nothing on the DVDVR message board medical committee.

Just remember, its always lupus.

I'd like to take a look at the colonoscopy results before make my diagnosis.

Except hepatitis is a known complication from mono.

Lesnar is said to have diverticulitis, a severe case at that.

That's where you get some small food stuck in your intestines and it gets infected and blocks your poodoo right? Deadly serious.

Holy shit, that IS serious. What's troubling is that Dana is saying that Brock is going to need surgery.....well hell, in some of the worst cases of diverticulitis, they may flat-out REMOVE portions of the infected intestine. I'm not sure if that would be career-ending, but if that's what they wind up doing, you really won't see Brock for a loooooong time.

Sounds like a partial colectomy. If so, it'll depend whether he needs a one-step or two-stage operation. The latter is where you require a "colostomy bag." He should be OK, but the weight loss will be significant I imagine.

EDIT: Or not, according to the AP report. Was Dana White freaking out over this or is he always this bad at speaking to the press?

Its kind of a complicated illness, doesn't sound fun. A weirder sounding illness would be an "Anal Fistula". Yes, thats what its actually called.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diverticulitis

I'm sure Dana White is freaking out over this, but he's also known for running his mouth and getting burnt (see his public feuds with Loretta Hunt and Quinton Jackson, for example).

http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/122211/Sh...ars-Illness.htm

Shane Carwin comments. It's really classy and well said.