Ben Franklin ... only president of the United states ... never to be president of the United States.

My wife pointed out that Karen actually looked physically unwell this episode. Anyone else pick up on that?

My favorite line, though ... "SHUT UP, ANGELA!!!"

This was my favourite part

No Andy on this one sucked... Andy + Strippers = Magic.

The most accurately written part of the episode was Karen describing the 5 days her and Jim spent talking about their relationship as being productive, whereas an exasperated Jim merely recounts that it happened.

Why was Packer not around the whole episode? I love this show but the only thing they need to do to make it better is make him a regular.

The producer's cut of last week's episode said that Andy was in anger management training, if that helps.

I think they implied Packer couldn't make it because he had a sales call.

"Secret secrets are no fun
Secret secrets hurt someone."

That was a sarcastic comment by her. She can't really do that.


Ugh, no. Packer is good in short doses (i.e. once or twice a season), but he'd get real old, real fast if he was there any more than that.

Agreed! he's definitely no Finchy!

I wasnt digging this episode so much for some reason. Maybe I was just really tired. I missed not having Andy there and i just think the episode fell flat in a few places where it could have been much better! Still 1000 times better than most other crap on TV though!

"I think they implied Packer couldn't make it because he had a sales call."

I know that. I'm wondering why the writers didnt have him wrote into the whole episode. I guess he wouldnt have let the stripper stopped dancing.

Probably because David Koechner has his own show on Comedy Central, and he didn't have time to shoot an entire episode?

"It's not a guys night out, it's a guys afternoon in. G-A-I. A gay. Not like that. Just a bridal shower for guys!...a guy shower...an hourlong shower with guys."

Terrific.

That show is awful. Maybe he should be on the Office regularly instead.

Or maybe he should stick with one or two episodes a season because he isn't that funny and wold really screw up the show?

Yeah I like that better.

Michael: "Who wants some man meat?"

Dwight: "I WANT SOME MAN MEAT!"

Michael: "Then man meat you shall have, sir!"

Or maybe he WOLD make it more entertaining.

That's how I eat steak as well, except I also use ketchup as dipping sauce.

I'm sure he WOLD.

F. Packer is great because he shows up one or twice an episode and it's great just like that. Plus, the interactions between him and Michael are the only good things about it. Making him a regular wouldn't a good move because yeah, the whole office hates him, but it's not like how the whole office hates Andy and Dwight and it makes everything lack what I love from The Office.

Darryl should become a regular before Packer.

Michael is the most petty character in the world. This episode ruled. I loved the hidden dance scenes, and Jim realizing that he'd once again lost Pam, but tried to mask it by saying he's happy with Karen. Creed switching the tags on the gifts was fantastic, too.

“We Schrutes get married in our graves. It makes the funerals very romantic, but the weddings are a bleak afair.”
“There are too many people on this Earth. We need a new plague.”
“Webster’s dictionary defines “wedding” as the joining of two metals. I think you two are metals. Gold metals.”
“Toby, yeah!”

Scrantonites!
Ryan knocking the bouquet out of Kelly's hand!

Great episode...the most cringe-inducing one in a while. Thanks Michael.

They went way too far with Michael tonight. Just no way they should have made him that much of a jackass at someone's wedding, even Michael should have more sense than that. Everything else I loved (especially Creed's switching tags on the biggest present) but the Michael stuff was painful, schlocky sitcom crap.

I can't wait to find out what happens with Pam & Roy next week.

Toby and Kelly/Ryan were the best in this one

Creed was good too, but he needs to speak again

Damnit, I can't believe I missed this part. Ryan is awesome.

I could not stop laughing at that once since my cousin was talking about doing the same thing at a wedding this summer.

There's an ongoing trend with this show that every time there's a plot-driven episode, the next week has been just about guaranteed to let hijinks ensue with just enough plot to push it along. And boy golly did they ever.

There's a real tendency to make Michael clear a slightly higher bar, since by this point we know that any bit of public speaking usually equals awkward-flavored disaster. But instead of doing it with the material this time around, they went more for inappropriate timing, and that is absolutely for the better, because there's always going to be opportunities for them to have Michael say something stupidly inappropriate.

But even what bits of plot got pushed forward tonight, it showed that everyone was dealing with their own relationships in different ways in the face of the wedding of the new Mr. and Mrs. Refrigeration, whether it was resignment but badly in need of a clue bat, finding common ground or doing your best Dikembe Mutumbo impression at the bouquet.

I think my favorite part was the priest referring to the groom as "Bob Vance, Vance Refrigeration."

Boy, you're not kidding. The Roy/Pam stuff was just as cringe-inducing as anything Michael did, my wife and I (okay, fine, just me) were literally yelling at the TV for Roy to go away any time he got close.

I do think the last look on Jim's face as Karen was doing karaoke was genuine and maybe there was some small form of closure reached tonight, but god damn, this episode was 100 kinds of awesome.

Ryan knocking the bouquet out of Kelly's hand was definitely a highlight.

Grizzly Bears can strike at any time

So now Roy and Pam are back together(or so we are supposed to think), Jim has an obvious crush on Pam and Pam secretly likes Jim but won't admit it. I've seen this somewhere before... just can't remember where...

Over the top episode which had me laughing a lot but in terms of storyline this was the worst episode of the year.

Rob

"Phyllis, do you take Bob Vance of Vance Refrigeration..."


I thought so, too. Really nicely written and acted moment that might settle down the love quadrangle for now.

Eric, I was thinking that about Michael just from the commercials alone. I just had that feeling that would happen.

A lot of awesome stuff happened, and unfortunately I need to see it another time or two to catch all that went on. I was in stitches seeing Jim "train" Dwight with the mints.

And I love how in the commercials they hyped it up like Jim and Pam would get back together. It was such an obvious swerve, but I bet a lot of people bought that. It was pretty cool how after Pam was longing for Jim this season and Jim seemed to move on that tonight it was kind of the other way around. They can still say that something wrong happened and it's business as usual, but if they keep it this way then things could get interesting.

Toby being a pimp was the greatest thing ever until Scrantonicity started playing. That was the greatest thing ever until Welding < MAWWIAGE < Ryan knocking the bouquet towards Toby.

Ep of the Year.

Watching Earl, Office, and Scrubs tonight....My roommate and I genuinely laughed so much...and paused to go "Oh, wow.", it took 2 hours to watch via the lovely DVR gizmo.

"You look as beautiful as the Queen of England"

GO TOBY!!!

I loved how Dwight tried to root-out the wedding crashers and the home movies of Michael as a kid peeing his pants to him saying it was 'bullshit' how he got DENIED.

Was Michael supposed to be wearing a Pee Wee Herman suit in the old movie, he seems to be a little old to have been a kid when Pee Wee was big in the mid-80's.

Wow, what a fantastic episode. After mistakingly going to an Office fansite and seeing everyone acting like 9/11 just happened again, I actually don't mind the Pam and Roy thing. Being the single person at a wedding SUCKS.. that's usually the time when you hook up with someone just so you don't feel bad about yourself..

And last week when Pam said in the break room, (something to the effect of) "boy do I need a boyfriend.." you can tell that her self confidence was probably at an all time low.

As great of a guy Roy has been this week, it's unrealistic to think Pam just doesn't see through it... plus, who hasn't hooked up with an ex? It happens.


Dave

I agree 100%. He just did too many big things. If they had just left it at the wheelchair thing OR the speech with the smaller things he did, I think it would have been fine. But Michael was just too over the top in this one.

There were some funny parts as usual, but this was indeed the worst episode of the season by far, IMHO. Same with Earl tonight I thought.

In the Bring Your Daughter To Work Day episode, when it shows the episode of Fundlebundle on which Michael appeared, he is dressed just as he was in the old wedding footage ... I don't think it was so much of a Pee Wee Herman suit as just showing his mom dressed him like a nerd.

I think it was genuine, but at the same time it was affected by him seeing Pam leave with Roy. I wouldn't call it masking because he really does like Karen (and her karaoke performance), but he definitely was focusing on Karen so he could avoid dealing with his feelings about Pam/Roy.

I love how they have made Roy a little bit more of a sympathetic character while only tweaking the characterization slightly ... had it been a huge change of face it would have been unbelievable, but he's basically the same guy as before only he has learned a few things.

No matter what, they kind of had to develop Roy, as Pam is a well-developed enough character that her falling for Roy as we knew him was pretty cliched and unbelievable. Pam falling for the Roy we see now (presumably the Roy she did fall for originally)? Not so much.

I think Roy will still be the prick he's always been and it's all a SWERVE! I just have the feeling Karen's going to drive Jim crazy to the point of him dumping her.

I agree with too much Michael on the episode and not enough Dwight. The one where Dwight was working at Staples should've lasted another episode instead of him going back to Dunder Mifflin right away.

Exactly. My girlfriend, who reviled Roy for the first two seasons, has done a complete 180 and actually wants to see them get back together now.

Every now and then, they have Toby do something where you just can't help but smile for him. I remember last season it was when he kept beating Michael at poker and said something to the effect of "...I'm going to chase that feeling." And last night with the bomb girl kissing him was tremendous.

Didn't really care for over-the-top asshole Michael this week though. Good ep but it seemed almost a touch out of character.

This ep reminded me of the Coup, where it didn't jive with me much, but I felt it was leading to something bigger down the line, which will then make some of the odd stuff here pay off.

I chuckled a little at the time, but in retrospect screaming 'I Hate you' as he was being carried away seemed far too inappropriate, even for Michael. Thought the cringeworthy shit was done to greatest effect with Michael dragging the wheelchair behind him, all the while maintaining something vaguely resembling an 'aisle-walk' (is there a proper name for that?).

Loved Dwight revelling in his assumed power as the wedding 'bouncer', and his smirk afterward. With all the stuff around Karen/Jim, Pam/Roy and even Toby/Hot Chicks' (Toby, yeah!) relationships, would liked to have seen more on Angela/Dwight. Not neccessarily any storyline development but something.

Literally everytime Michael does anything really embarrasing, I recall the fantastic line (said whilst hiding behind his office door) from the episode where Andy follows him around- 'I don't understand how someone can have so little self-awareness.'

Bit of a let down altogether but, as always, feverishly excited for next week.

'ladies and gentlemen may I present to you, for the first time as a couple, Mr and Mrs. Bob Vance!'
'.. and do you Bob..'
'ssshit'

~edit~ In fact, just re-watched the part where Michael prematurely 'announces' them as a couple with the audience all looking totally bemused/appalled...all except Dwight, who is eagerly surveying the scene for wedding crashers. Awesome.

Kevin was great when he asked where Toby found his girl. But, man, Creed switching the cards... just pure brilliance. The opening with Dwight and Jim was pretty neat, too.

When they showed Roy and Pam slow dancing to "You Were Meant For Me", the camera panned down and showed Dwight and Angela also outside slow dancing together.